by Bolkonskij - 2010, February 26 - 5:29pm
Alright, I actually decided not to write anymore here in this topic since I really respect everyones decision. We're all volunteers here I still do respect it, but I have to answer to the what-if scenario that has been drawn.
Besides studying i'm working part-time with a big japanese videogame company (guess who..). The company gets roughly 300-400 notifications of copyright violations by some rom sites & else per month here. Mostly by customers. And what is the reaction? Nothing. Nothing. And why? Simply because everyone understands there is no way to stop this from happening, because it's wrong to think that someone downloading a rom would buy the original software and last - but most important - these sites are not maintained by companies. No companies means no money. Be sure, even Microsoft has no interest in starting law action, probably on international scale, and then finding out that the other side is a 16 year old student (just any example) with no funds, thus leaving them with all the costs. What the company lawyers deal with, are the really big fish - far eastern companies and such.
MacGarden as well as these millions of rom pages are not of any interest. (just type in "roms" into google and check yourself... pretty obvious copyright violations you'd think, where are the lawyers!?)
But if you really really really want to be on the safe site (which I support, don't get me wrong please!) then add in the source of the page that google shall not index the apps/games pages of the site. That way google search for "Microsoft Office 2001" will in no case turn up this page here.
Aside from that, it's completly up to you bertyboy, what you want to share and when
by Euryale - 2010, February 25 - 11:27pm
I already had MS Office 2001 before this post..
(but there are just some things I don't get..
probably that's a man's thing and me as a Woman I just don't get it)
this is very SIMPLE, but you guys make it way too complicated and I don't understand why,
and that kind of behavior upsets me a little bit,
if this is Warez,
It shouldn't be here at MacGarden.... that is MacGarden's policy, right?
and avoid all that big blah blah excusing yourself, and having MacGarden on Bill Gates's Black list,
that's one thing,
If this is NOT warez, then there should be No problem whatsoever posting the serial key
just like we've been doing all this time,
now the question is very simple,
is this Warez or not?
now if you just don't want to share it, that's no problem at all,
but then why going all the trouble uploading the full CD for everybody if they can't use it,
in that case someone should have posted a link to eBay or Microsoft's download page.
and make it simpler.
by bertyboy - 2010, February 25 - 10:50pm
Google is your friend.
I have no trouble in posting software and serials, where required, for products released by companies no longer in business, and where the rights to those products have not been taken up by another company - the rights to the products of a company are usually something sold off by the receivers who dispose of the company assets when they go into liquidation. This doesn't always happen, ie. if the company has no creditors to pay, or where the company has gone into volutary liquidation. I've done this to two of my IT services companies. I'm sure that this is not the first time we've discussed this on the site.
So, if Microsoft went to the wall tomorrow I'd have no trouble in providing my own serial, and uploading Office v.X (which I also paid for) and a serial for that. But posting serials for a company that aggresively defends its copyright would only be bad news for the site.
We're all entitled to our opinion, but it won't help us fight off Microsoft lawyers, and this isn't a free software site, even for very old software, someone had to purchase it, and I still search for and pay for old titles on eBay and similar.
On that note, you can easily purchase Office 2001 on eBay or similar for under $10 / £5 if you really want to use it. I can promise you (again, said this more than once before) that it was some of the best OS9 software ever written, easily worth the full price back in the day.
by Euryale - 2010, February 25 - 9:38pm
I thought it was just drag the folder onto the HD and used it,
I already had Office 2001, and the version I had first, I just copied the folder,
and it worked fine,
eventually, I downloaded this full version and burned it onto a CD,
but I have not tested it (install it)
I didn't know it asks for a Key number.
but if it does, it would be nice to have it, otherwise it wouldn't make sense
having uploaded the whole program.
but if bertyboy doesn't want to share it,
well, then I guess we can't do anything about it.
Your concept of preservation is like
"You can look, but you can't touch"
"You can have it, but you can't use it"
or like President Clinton once said:
"...smoked it but didn't inhaled it"